Saturday, July 23, 2011

Mass Murder in Norway – A Nation Where Few Civilians Are Allowed to Carry Guns for Self-Defense. What Say You, Mayor Bloomberg?

July 23, 2011

In response to yesterday’s tragic and senseless mass-murder and killings in Norway, I regrettably must ask: will we also be seeing similar / continued incidences of mass-murder in the U.S.A. when folks like Mayor Bloomberg and his anti-gun coalition get their wish to prevent the American citizenry from carrying defensive weaponry such as handguns in a manner as such laws seem to suggest in Norway?

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From Wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks)

“…Approximately two hours after the Oslo explosion, … he took a ferry to the island of Utøya, the location of the Labour Party's annual Workers' Youth League (AUF) youth summer camp. Once there, he engaged in a systematic shooting spree amidst the campers before finally being apprehended. …

WHILE DRESSED AS A POLICE OFFICER, [the killer] asked people to gather round him BEFORE INDISCRIMINATELY FIRING HIS WEAPONS, KILLING AND INJURING NUMEROUS PEOPLE. He first shot people on the island and later started shooting the escaping people in the water. … MOST OF THE CASUALTIES WERE YOUTHS OF ABOUT 15 AND 16 YEARS OLD; …

According to an eyewitness, … IT TOOK POLICE MORE THAN TWO HOURS TO ARRIVE AT THE SCENE. WHEN THEY ARRIVED, THE SURVIVORS WERE BEGGING THE OFFICERS TO THROW AWAY THEIR WEAPONS, AS THEY WERE FRIGHTENED THAT THESE MEN IN UNIFORMS MIGHT ALSO OPEN FIRE on them in a manner similar to the act of the perpetrator. …”

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Apparently, private gun ownership by citizens of Norway for the purpose of self-defense is “…practically never accepted as a reason for gun ownership. …” (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Norway - remember about quoting Wikipedia) However, for a likely more reliable site concerning gun control laws in Norway, see: http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/norway.


Would the sickening mass-murder and killings in Norway have progressed to such an extent if a few individuals in the crowd of innocent victims maintained defensive weapons to end the carnage by returning fire at the violent killer/creep? OF COURSE NOT!

Mayor Bloomberg of New York City, as a U.S. politician who would seem to prefer the American citizenry to remain as individually defenseless against crazed violent creeps as currently appears is the case with the citizens and laws of Norway, I wonder, what say you on this most recent matter of the cowardly mass-murder of the defenseless innocents in that nation? Of course, I am aware that it is much of your apparent anti-gun position that crazed individuals should be denied firearms. But what of the instance where the crazed individual appears no less sane than anyone else? What of the continued theft of guns from governments and armies with those guns landing who-knows-where? Until you are able to obtain your Utopian and idealized world wherein only despots, tyrants, and all-powerful armies have exclusive access to your idealized world’s limited amount of ‘defensive’ firearms, the citizenry must be able to defend themselves against attack from violent creeps who seem able to obtain firearms regardless of any law intended to stop the creeps from obtaining these weapons!

The Law of the bygone Wild,Wild West of yesteryear appears as much more realistic and more effective as well – when it comes to dealing with crazed and violent creeps walking among the law-abiding and decent folk of the world!

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Regardless of all else, may I hereby be allowed to pass along my sincere sympathies and condolences to the families of those murdered as well as to the nation of Norway. May the innocent dead rest in peace.


Adam Trotter / AVT



Also see the following about Norwegian gun control laws:

ACT NO. 1 OF 9 JUNE 1961 RELATING TO FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION
http://www.ub.uio.no/ujur/ulovdata/lov-19610609-001-eng.html


Norway — Gun Facts, Figures and the Law
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/norway


The Norwegian Register of Hunters
http://www.brreg.no/english/registers/hunter/index.html

Norwegian Laws in English
http://www.lovdata.no/info/lawdata.html


Lov om skytevåpen og ammunisjon m.v. [våpenloven].
http://www.lovdata.no/all/nl-19610609-001.html


Lov av 9. juni 1961 nr 1 om skytevåpen og ammunisjon m.v. [våpenloven].
http://www.lovdata.no/for/sf/sf-19610609-001.html

Norwegian law in foreign languages
http://www.ub.uib.no/avdeling/jur/norlaw.htm


Handguns Save Life and Property, While the Defenseless Can Lose Everything.
http://adamvernontrotter.blogspot.com/2011/07/handguns-save-life-and-property-while.html


Fuck the Stupid Drug War; Let’s Start a War on Violent Creeps!!!http://avt777.blogspot.com/2010/03/fuck-stupid-drug-war-lets-start-war-on.html

Stop the Violence on Our Streets and in Our Society!!! If It Takes Violence to Do So, Well.... Damn the Torpedoes, Full Steam Ahead!!
http://avt777.blogspot.com/2010/03/stop-violence-on-our-streets-and-in-our.html